Us Uniform colour

The Us Army had a lot of Issued uniforms during the WW2...

And so you can mix all of them in the platoon to represent the fact that replacements came along and veteran still had their uniforms on...

Example for the airborne troops... they were issued in 1942 a uniform that was basically a Pale Yellow Ocra...that in the Valleyo references is the Ochra Verde 914 and this was used until Market garden Campaing were the GI recieved a newly Greenish uniform and new Jump Boots(most of the old paratroopers Kept their old style Jump boots as a trophee)

The Greenish reference (which can be used also for Germans) is Oliva Amarillo 892. At the end of the conflict many sued on their new uniforms pokets of the old one and also mixed pants of one colour with jacket of another... so you can make a nice patchwork..

Very few CAMO uniform were issued in ETO a group of Pathfinder and Engeneers were issued during D-Day but the experiment didn't last long...

For the Elmet and all US Gear (including tank vehicles guns mortars) I prefer to use the Gris Oliva 888 instead of the Marron Violeta 887 because it's darker and it's really very close to the official US paint called OLIVE DRAB

For the Webbing (backpack ammo pouches)...I'll tell u another time...I'm evil I know....

Hello Paracadutista,

Thanks for those details - very good.

Just pointed out something: I don't think that US paratroopers were given camo uniforms. They simply painted their combat uniform manually with green slashes.

I believe the camo pattern (callled Duck pattern, if I recall well) was given to a few squads (but no paratroopers) in Normandy (but largely used on the Pacific front) but they fast swapped their uniform for "regular" green one's as they get shot at by their own troops (some US soldiers thought they were wearing ss uniforms!)

BUT in any case, I would really appreciate any information you might have on camo uniform used by paratroopers as Jean Gabin used to say "Je sais que je ne sais pas, j'apprends tous les jours".

Firefly

Firefly wrote:

Hello Paracadutista,

s Jean Gabin used to say "Je sais que je ne sais pas, j'apprends tous les jours".

Firefly

Ok...

If maybe I wrote it not correctly...I'm sorry...

Engeneers were not Airborne Engeneers...and they were issued a special camo uniform...

The Pathfinder...well the camo was not issued as u said was painted by them...

Thanks Firefly for the correction...

I read somewhere that camo uniforms were given to Pathfinders in the Normandy campaign, but I cannot trace back my source. Indeed they were distributed to two-three US Divsions. Not only to engineers, but also to anti-tank and armored infantry. The Historica n° 67 has two pages of pictures (p.80 and 81)

You can also find a forum where this issue is discussed, here:

http://forum.6juin1944.com/index.php?s=a6cab9023bacec84d8bb9dec2e65f762&act=ST&f=11&t=848&st=15

and an article with the identification of the concerned Divisions on the FOW website with the painting indications, here:

http://www.flamesofwar.com/Article.asp?ArticleID=267

Ciao

F

I have some pictures of them but I have to download...wel it's easier to tell u my source...


Osprey Book Us Army 1941-45

Just came back from the librairie de l'escadron. Do not tell you what a bloodshed it was again... financially speaking. There is a book only on US pathfinders. Of course it was wraped in cellophan. Could not have a look inside.

Flavio you just have to ask the vendor it will open it for you....

I know Greg, but I did not ask for that one. Instead bought "D-Day with the Screaming Eagles" where ther is another account of the attack to the artillery battery at the Manoir de Brécourt by Lt Winters and 13 men of the Easy Company, 506th PIR, 101st Airborne Division. Surprisingly in this book the battery is presented as being 88 mm flak instead of 105 mm howitzers. I would like to simulate this attack with FOW rules but I don't think 14 men will make it against a German artillely battery + five machine guns.

By the way, no indication of camo uniform.

perché ti scrivo in inglese?

Well I think that it will be very hard for a Platoon in Flames of war to do that...but maybe with commando and some house made special rules we could do that.....

Let me think of something this week I'll find something....

......Ma perche ti rispondo in Inglese.....

OK now for the Webbing and carring equipment...
You can use the Khaki that's on the "american painting box" is a very good khaki (KHAKI 988) but personally I prefer a more yellowish one KHAKI GREY 880...it's very close to airborne used backpack...but I know I'm a Crazy one so...

For the wood and boots I prefer to use a more dark tone FLAT BROWN 984
And finally the Entrenching tool...well the original colour is a Greenish Khaki but on a such little figure it will mixed up with the other colour.. Pants and Pouches...so I paint it in Flat Brown it comes really out and I really find it nice...

On the uniforms you can add little details like Division Badges and Rank...but you really need 3 things....Good Eyes not shaking hands and last but not least you have to be crazy enough to do it...

Ciao Have a great day and til next time... PAINT PAINT PAINT....

OK guys... here is another one....

For the basic infantry man.. (US) the colour of the set that you find... is quite right but there is a little difference...

Ex. For the vest the colour is a little bit to graish but the problem is that many of the vest that were worn during the war changed colours...
then of course the thing I told you about replacements and new issued uniforms...and for the webbing it's almoust the same problem so what I suggest is to stick to the reference on the book...changing a little bit colours for the jackets... but for sure the webbing was a mixture of GREEN GREY(886)and KHAKI (988) so u can use them both...
Finally for the boots the saddle brown is really to light...I prefer to use the FLAT BROWN...

For the GLIDER infantry I suggest that u use for the Jackets the same colours issued for Paratroopers but for the pants FLAT BROWN which is the perfect match for the trousers used by Glider infantry...remember that GLider infantry had Leggings so u can use the basic trooper to field them on the Battelfield with your airborne Troops...

Well That's it until next time...

GERONIMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OK now a little tip...If you want to make your airborne troops look like the one who landed in Normandy...
First of all you should put some static Grass on the helmet...DO NOT use the one that u use for the bases...it looks really weird...use the fine static FLOK..that's sold from the GW products...

I suggest that u use a PVA glue because it will became transparent and not clear as the super glue...
There is a nice brand that MARCUS is selling at 0.80cent a bottle it's completely trasparent...and very nice...

Finally you have blackned the faces...just make a little wash on the face...and here are the Paratroopers for D-DAY...

j'ai rien capté mais t'a l'air a fond dans ton machin

desolè mais expliquer les couleurs des uniformes GI étais plus facile en English que Français....

Now dites moi ce que vous voulez comme autres conseil pour la peinture...

ALLEMANDS
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let me know....

questions de détails:

les munitions pour bazooka étaient de quelle couleur

même question pour les munitions presentes dans le priest

même question pour les tubes donnés avec les mortiers de 81

Alors....
BAZOOKA AMMO... all Green OLIVE DRAB like all the US equipment...GRIS OLIVA (Vallejo) 888

Priest ammo 105mm the SLUG in black or Green (olive green 888) and launching charge( la douille) in GOLD

Mortar ammo was carried in protective tubes that usually were painted in Black and had a ring in white or different colours for the ammo carried inside...
Smoke Frag Armour Piercing Fosfrous ect. ect.

Ciao Greg

where must i put the ring for mortar ammo?

Bigging of the tube on which side you want.. the tube is so little that u will determine the side...